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ATI Catalyst Suite 6.2 ( Windows 98, 98 SE, ME)

Radeon® 9800 series

Radeon® 9700 series

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Radeon® 9100 series

Radeon® 9000 series

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Radeon® X550 series

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Radeon® X300 series

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  1. Question:::: Will windows 98SE Support the 9600XT card?

    We have an Unopened box, and want to be certain this card will work before we install it.

    The website/box states that it’s only supported by Win2K/ME/XP.

    the more replys, the better, Thanks!!

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    Last Catalyst drivers (4.3) with 98/ME support,

    http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/…rod=productsME98driver&submit.x=16&submit.y=7

    If you want to use any drivers later than those, you’re gong to have to upgrade to either 2000/XP.

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    Works fine on mine…

    But like stormy says…our last driver is the 4.3s’. Though, I think the 3.9s’ are the best anyway.

    Last edited: Jun 24, 2004

  4. Thanks Stormy::::Thanks Breakout

    @breakout?:::Is that a picture of Sarah Michelle Gellar? (WOW)!!!

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    WOW? you mean yum dont you

    Anyway, why dont you run XP with SP1, it will be heaps faster and besides that, 98 wont run 1 gig of DDR ram

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    I don’t know. I just stumbled across it on the net and «fell in love»…lol

    (yeah, it’s SMG)

  7. Yah, I hear ya, YUM!!

    Anyways, This is for My Fathers computer. He’s one of those old timers who likes windows 98SE, and Is Hesitant to upgrade to XP. He just Got this Video card as a replacement for his Defective PNY 5700 Ultra, and he wants to make sure it will run before he opens the box. I told him to get the 9800pro, but someone over at CompUSA stated that he needed a 500W PSU to run this card. I was like, «what are they smoking over their, I want some». My father has had bad luck with windows ever since he got on one. See, he’s a «Mac» man. He believes that Mac’s are the Better of the two Evils. That Microsoft stole most of what Macitoch was developing and hurried it to market.

    God, It would’ve been nice to see what a 9800pro would do for gaming on his rig….O well, a 9600XT can’t be that bad, right?

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    Okay guys, quit drooling all over my pic.

    I don’t think he’ll be disappointed. I can run 95% of the games out there at 1280×1024 with no problems.

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I recently acquired an ATI Radeon 9600XT AGP card for my Windows 98SE in place of the GeForce 6200 PCI card. I got the card installed, however, there are a couple of issues:

1) The NEC MultiSync 1850e reports the video is out of range, even though, it displays a picture
2) I installed the Catalyst 6.2 drivers and software in Windows 98SE, but, after I installed the drivers, the OS would either lock up after it installs the drivers or just restarts when it’s going to the login screen.

System specs:
Motherboard: DFI KM266PRO-MLV
CPU: AMD Sempron 2200+
RAM: 256MB DDR333
GPU: ATI Radeon 9600XT AGP
Monitor: NEC MultiSync LCD1850e Dual VGA
Sound: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Platinum SB0100 + SB IR Drive
HDD: Maxtor D740X-6L 60GB
ODD0: LG CD Burner
ODD1: Samsung DVD-ROM
OS: Microsoft Windows 98SE
Speakers: JBL Platinum speakers
PSU: 400W DiabloTek (cheap) with the ATX-ATX w/ -5V adapter
Case: Ultra Wizard ULT31580 Black case

I also noticed that two caps are bulged just a bit. Should I recap the card as well to be on the safe side?

The out of range also occurs when it’s turning on as well at the POST screen, boot/splash screen, and the desktop. I’m going to check my motherboard and see what’s going on and/or swap the boards again to see what the heck is going on. I’m also planning on recapping the GPU as well with new caps (the 5 electrolytic capacitors) and visually inspect the motherboard to see if there are any bad caps. Could a cheap PSU also become a factor in this as well? I have a Corsair 520HX PSU that’s in my Socket 7 machine that’s very stable and reliable that’ll get installed in the PC and my plan is to install a 250W Bestec PSU (I have several of these lying around from HP/Compaq systems) since those still work in my Socket 7 system.

I currently have the GeForce 6200 PCI card installed temporarily until I sort this out, but, since it’s only a PCI card, the VooDoo2 card will act strange or not work (needs 2 new caps since 2 broke off) when it’s inserted into the last PCI slot.

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  1. Приветствую, камрады. Начну издалека. Недавно окончательно решился на сборку (относительно) старого компьютера, такого, чтобы убить сразу трёх зайцев, а именно:
    1) Игры начала-середины 90х
    2) Игры конца 90х
    3) Игры начала 00х
    Если говорить точнее, то я без проблем хочу запускать игры из-под DOS, при этом комфортно играя в вещи до 2003-2004 года, такой вот универсальный вариант.
    Основной ОС будет, естественно, Windows 98 SE, чтобы см. пункты 1-2, второй OC — XP PE (пункт 3).
    Покопавшись в старом железе, я нарыл у себя подходящую для этого дела мать, Gigabyte GA-945GM-S2, как по мне — отличный вариант под 775 сокет, тем более за бесплатно. Так же нашёл 2 планки DDR2 по 512mb (да, я знаю, что win98 не любит много ОЗУ), NCP PC-5300 и WD на 74gb. Отталкиваться я решил от этого базиса. Главный кандидат среди процессоров — Intel Pentium 4 3.6Mhz Prescott-2M. На али такой стоит порядка 600 рублей. Кстати, что означает Philippnes?
    Выбор видеокарты пал на ATI Radeon 9800 256mb, желательно XT. Nvidia Geforce в данной ситуации мне не интересны. Поколение FX проигрывает и жутко греется, а 6ое я даже рассматривать не стал, уж больно оно позднее. И вот тут назревает самый главный вопрос. Смогу ли я поставить стабильные(ха-ха) дрова для Radeon 9800 на win98 и насколько адекватно данная видеокарта будет работать в этой сборке.

    Для наглядности продублирую конфигурацию:

    Видеокарта — Ati Radeon 9800 xt/pro 256mb
    Процессор — Intel pentium 4 3600mhz
    Мат. плата — Gigabyte GA-945GM-S2
    RAM — 2*512mb DDR2 2
    HDD — WD WD740GD 74gb

    Повторюсь, важна именно 98 винда, XP — уже второстепенна, а денег, времени и желания собирать два ящика под конец 90х и начало 00х соответственно нет. Буду благодарен за ответ на главный вопрос и надеюсь кто-нибудь поделится парой-тройкой других важных советов касательно этой или аналогичной сборки.

  2. Да

    А это как повезёт. Могу утешить, что проблемы, если таковые возникнут, будут те же, что на обычной 9800/9600/и 9200, пожалуй.

  3. В чём проигрывает? В шейдерах 2.0? В старых играх их не было. А в Far Cry и Half-Life 2 можно играть на современном железе.

    У Radeon дизеринг в 16-битном цвете выглядит отвратительно.

  4. Запросто всё у вас поставится, но процессор рекомендую взять уже Core2, потому что пентиумы4 все после 3ГГц ну очень горячие — понадобится вротмненоги-вентиллятор. Радеон действительно интереснее Жирафа в данном случае, так как у него есть интересная Труформ, но которая работает только в дровах не выше каталист 5.7!

    Вместо 98-ой винды рекомендую ME, но DOS… да, с досом не судьба.


    Thomas Wolfe нравится это.

  5. Как вы в материнку с PCI-E вставите видеокарту AGP?

  6. Это не предмет для сравнения, в 9600 и выше они уже есть.

  7. В спецификации указано вот что:
    1 х PCI Express x16
    1 x PCI Express x1 порт
    2 разъема PCI-плат расширений

  8. Забыть либо про Radeon, либо про Windows 98.

  9. Вообще, из личного опыта — драйвера в Win9x есть вплоть до Radeon X850 PE Agp. Насчёт PCIe вариантов не знаю, не использовал.
    Глюки? Да стандартно всё, табличный туман и негативная прозрачность будут наглядно показывать криворукость драйверописателей Catalyst.
    Под DOS не особо рекомендуется, все новые карты забирают много памяти до 1 МБ под себя, в результате более-менее нормальное количество базовой памяти будет только в конфигурации без EMS.
    PCIe материнка на 865PE под Win9x… В теории и по отзывам — работает, на практике не проверял.
    Ну и последнее — Radeon 9800 Pro не особо от 9800 XT отличается, а найти её сильно легче.

  10. А Radeon 9800 — это AGP. Молотком будете вбивать?

  11. Что касается двухядерника, то у меня есть не менее горячий Pentium D 3,4mhz, но меня интересует именно одноядерный Pentium 4 хотя бы потому, что добрая половина игр заточена под одно ядро, вспомнить тот же Max Payne 2. Шаманить я могу и на win10, принудительно отключая ядра.
    ME не подходит именно по причине зверской ампутации DOS’а, вы верно заметили, что не судьба.

    — добавлено 1 дек 2016, предыдущее сообщение размещено: 1 дек 2016 —

    Вот незадача(
    Ладно, фиг с ней, с матерью. Можно что-нибудь другое присмотреть с AGP.

  12. С последними драйверами (5.2-6.2) PCI-E карты работать под Win98 будут.

    Последнее редактирование: 1 дек 2016

  13. Добро пожаловать в радужный мир NVIDIA.

    Осталась малость — найти аналог 9800 под PCI-E.

  14. Похоже, что проблема с PCIe матерью решится в добровольно-принудительном порядке, так как оказалось, что 9800 — это AGP, поэтому буду искать что-нибудь более древнее, при этом под 775 сокет. А XT или PRO — не принципиально, не найду XT, поставлю прошку, её действительно легче найти.

    — добавлено 1 дек 2016, предыдущее сообщение размещено: 1 дек 2016 —

    Тут уже нужно мнение экспертов. Что практичнее? Искать аналог 9800 под PCIe(всё сводится к NVIDIA FX), либо искать мать под AGPшный Radeon.

  15. Так чего его искать, нету его у ATi.
    Максимум — аналог Radeon 9600 в виде X600. Да и тот, помнится, с мостом PCIe-AGP.

  16. Мнение экспертов таково: все новые видеокарты под Win98 — источник нескончаемого геморроя.

  17. Я знал, на что я иду)

    — добавлено 1 дек 2016, предыдущее сообщение размещено: 1 дек 2016 —

    Может кто на вскидку посоветует мать на 775 сокете, с AGP слотом и поддержкой DDR/DDR2?

  18. Как нету? X700, X800 SE, X800 GT — практически аналоги 9800.
    http://radeon.ru/reference/cardtable/

    Он был PCI-E.

  19. GeForce 6600GT. Или 6800.

    Тут другой вопрос интересен. Как планируется звук под DOS?

    Нужна хотя бы SB Live!, у неё вроде неплохая эмуляция SB16 для этого дела.
    Сам сейчас её на тестовом стенде ковыряю. Под DOS пока не заставил работать, но в Win98 midi сравнил с CMI8738 и ESS1869. Разница зверская в пользу Creative.
    Ещё как вариант поискать SB128 карты и подобное, но раз уж лайвы продаются за те же копейки, то смысл в обрезках? Под PCI ещё на CMI8738 карты были, у них неплохая эмуляция SBPro2, но после сравнения midi… Не советую я вобщем их, хотя сам юзал встроенный кодек, и вариант в принципе работоспособен.

    Последнее редактирование: 2 дек 2016

  20. Чем сокеты 478 или 462 не устраивают?


    Thomas Wolfe нравится это.

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I’m hoping the Windows 98 experts here can give me some advice.

As you can see from my signature, I have a dual boot system with XP and 98SE.

My ATI Radeon 9200 based graphics card is getting pretty old now (bought in 1998) and I really need to replace it with a better one as it’s having problems with recent games.

XP is no problem of course, but I need the replacement to still work at least at a fairly basic level on Windows 98SE!

I need it ideally to work at least with 32bit colour at 1024×768 resolution.

I’ve looked at later ATI cards like the Radeon HD series, but it seems to be impossible to find any drivers for them which will work at all on Windows 98.

I’d like to stick with ATI/AMD if possible, but it’s not essential.

It has to be an AGP card though, as my 2003 motherboard has no PCI-E slot, and not even any free normal PCI slots!

Anyone any suggestions as to what I could use?

Thanks, Dave.

As far as I remember, a Radeon 9800 would be it for the strongest model with full Win9x compatibility. Back when the Radeon 9×00 series was new, I used two 9600s and a 9800 in Win98SE machines (and the 9800 blew the 9600 out of the water). My one remaining Win9x machine has a Radeon 9550 in it (basically an underclocked, fanless 9600).

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Edit — None of those are going to be up-to-snuff for modern games, but they can generally handle HL2-based games set to really low settings. Just don’t expect to get anywhere with Unreal Engine 3 games, etc. I imagine you’ll get ripped off buying an AGP card though… have you considered dedicating your computer to 98SE and just building a modern computer for XP+? $50 motherboard, $90 CPU, $40 in RAM, $100 video card, $60 hard drive, $20 case and $40 power supply would absolutely pwn your current system and would play modern games fantastically.

I am using a Radeon 9600XT 256MB AGP card. I tried an X1650 but I found there were no drivers for it. I am using a Win98 FE with misc SE files installed. There were no X1650 series drivers available for any 98 that I could find, I didn’t even try looking for HD series. Besides the HD series are designed for DX10+.

PS

None of those are going to be up-to-snuff for modern games

I was able to play Crysis with the 9600XT on the same hardware as my 9x PC but with XP. It is possible, but not recommended.

Dave-H, same as you, I’d like to replace my old Radeon 9700 (if I remember correctly, bought in 2003).

Theoretically, I’m in a better position than you because I have a PCI-E slot on my motherbord.

But we will face two major problems: first, you can’t buy a new graphic card equipped with less than 512 MB of graphic memory (not resolved issue on Win98/ME).

In fact, I don’t even know if it’s possible to run PCI-E graphic card with 256 MB on those systems.

Second problem, it is of course, lack of drivers.

In theory, you could hack drivers for Windows XP/2000 — they use WDM model driver which is supported by Win98/ME.

But as I presume, it’s more than difficult.

As to your question: if your motherboard supports AGP 2.0 (mode 4x) you can put a card from X800 family as the strongest on the ATI side.

From Nvidia, it would be a GeForce 7 family.

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Dave-H, same as you, I’d like to replace my old Radeon 9700 (if I remember correctly, bought in 2003).

Theoretically, I’m in a better position than you because I have a PCI-E slot on my motherbord.

But we will face two major problems: first, you can’t buy a new graphic card equipped with less than 512 MB of graphic memory (not resolved issue on Win98/ME).

In fact, I don’t even know if it’s possible to run PCI-E graphic card with 256 MB on those systems.

Second problem, it is of course, lack of drivers.

In theory, you could hack drivers for Windows XP/2000 — they use WDM model driver which is supported by Win98/ME.

But as I presume, it’s more than difficult.

As to your question: if your motherboard supports AGP 2.0 (mode 4x) you can put a card from X800 family as the strongest on the ATI side.

From Nvidia, it would be a GeForce 7 family.

I think that I should share something interesting — I once had faced something similar.

I had installed Windows 98 SE on a Compaq Presario 2837AP laptop, and it had ATI Mobility Radeon 9500 which was supposed to be unsupported by Windows 98 (According to Compaq and ATI).

I found an older driver that supported Windows 98 (Can’t remember which ATI Radeon card it was for)… and it worked with my card (Fully working, all resolutions/modes functional).

Of course, I did something slightly different, but also involved getting drivers to work on «Unsupported hardware».

My new laptop — a Compaq CQ40-538TX has a Nvidia 103M graphics card (Unlisted by Nvidia, and the generic drivers refuse to install). My father’s Sony Vaio (With a modified Nvidia 8400M) also faced something similar.

I fixed that by modifying the .inf file. Perhaps some of you could modify the inf of a older Catalyst driver to make it work with the newer graphics card? From what I know, these drivers are «unified» — meaning that they are designed to work on many hardware versions (Even newer ones that still follow it’s standard).


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As you can see from my signature, I have a dual boot system with XP and 98SE. It has to be an AGP card though, as my 2003 motherboard has no PCI-E slot, and not even any free normal PCI slots!

My systems used ATI cards up until maybe 2002 or 2003, but I wasn’t happy with the stability of these cards (or their drivers) so I switched to Nvidia. The Nvidia 6200 (or maybe some higher 6×00 version) is likely the most advanced Nvidia card that you’ll likely get running under win-98.

If you really are motivated enough to run your XP side with a more advanced card, consider the Asrock Dual or Quad-core VSTA motherboard. These boards came out about 3 years ago, and they might still be available. The Intel version is socket 775, and they have both AGP and PCIe slots. You might be able to put both a PCIe and AGP card on this board, and under win-98 use just the AGP card, but both cards would be available under XP. If you had a single monitor with 2 inputs, you could connect input-1 to the AGP card and input-2 to the PCIe card.

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.. I have a dual boot system with XP and 98SE. It has to be an AGP card though, as my 2003 motherboard has no PCI-E slot, and not even any free normal PCI slots!

Matrox has Driver for all their products available, very neat and thorough!

This card: Matrox Millennium G400 / Matrox Millennium G400 MAX has drivers from Win 98 up to Win server 2003 and Linux 32 and 64 bits!

Look here:

www.matrox.com And look

here, for drivers by OS

The meticulous care for good drivers is a specialty of Matrox.

kind regards

Eveline


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Note a thread in the Zoom Player group,

«Do Post DX9 Video Cards Provide Any Advantages for Viewing Images and Videos?»

http://forum.inmatrix.com/index.php?showtopic=9393

where one responder suggests that for non-game, picture and video viewing, the benefits of higher level video cards may be marginal.

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This card: Matrox Millennium G400 / Matrox Millennium G400 MAX has drivers from Win 98 up to Win server 2003 and Linux 32 and 64 bits!

I used to have (and used) that card before: A Matrox Millenium G400 with 32MB of VRAM.

Unfortunately, it lacks hardware T&L (Nor were it’s drivers fully Directx 9.0 compliant).

Although it’s general 2D graphics performance wasn’t too bad, it really can’t play new games (My games bought from 2003 onwards were mostly unplayable/playable with poor graphics performance).

I think that the thread OP was looking for a graphics card that could play «modern» games that need a slightly newer graphics card model compared to the one he’s using now.

Edit: I think that I should also suggest that the thread OP should also try Nvidia cards

There was a ongoing project (Modified Nvidia 82.69 drivers) on this forum board to modify the last version of the Nvidia driver meant for Windows 9x to work with the newest line of Nvidia graphics cards.

Personally, I didn’t own such a new card at that time when I still had my Windows 98 machine, but I heard that users even with the Geforce 9 series had little/no problems (Need confirmation/backing up on this point) getting their cards to work with Windows 98.


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Thanks everyone, and sorry for not responding sooner, but I’ve been very busy the last few days!

That’s certainly given me a lot of food for thought.

I’m not going to be changing my motherboard any time soon, as it is a dual processor server board with 3.2GHz Xeons and 4GB of a hard to get type of RAM, all which cost a lot of money!

It’s more than powerful enough for everything I want to do with it, it’s just the graphics card (which is five years older, and was transplanted from my previous motherboard) which is now letting the system down.

I will certainly investigate all the suggestions and get back.

I do run my present card at 8xAGP BTW.

Thanks all.


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I’m not going to be changing my motherboard any time soon, as it is a dual processor server board with 3.2GHz Xeons

Is the Xeon part of the x86 family? Can DOS, or even Win-98 even be installed on a Xeon-based motherboard?

On a system like that, why would you consider running win-98 in any way other than as a virtual OS?


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Is the Xeon part of the x86 family? Can DOS, or even Win-98 even be installed on a Xeon-based motherboard?

On a system like that, why would you consider running win-98 in any way other than as a virtual OS?

I’m not an expert on processor types, but I assume the Xeon is an x86 processor. Windows 98 (and DOS) runs on one fine, but only sees one of my two physical processors of course. XP Pro sees them both as four processors using hyperthreading, which was the predecessor to multi-core technology I believe.

The reason I run it like I do is just a legacy one. I originally had just Windows 98SE (and 98FE and 95 before it) on my previous motherboard, then in 2000 I added Windows 2000 in a dual boot setup. The whole lot was ported to my present motherboard, (which despite never being tested with Windows 98 seemed to work fine with it) in 2003. Earlier this year the Windows 2000 installation was updated to XP Pro.

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Well I’m now looking at nVidia cards.

I quite like the look of the GeForce 7950 GT.

Seems pretty powerful, is an 8x AGP card, and claims to have Windows 98 drivers available!

Anyone any thoughts or experience with this?

Thanks, Dave.

The 6800 is the last card with official (ie non-hacked) drivers. I’ve got an AGP BFG 6800 GT OC myself

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