Classic shell skin windows xp

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Post subject: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:26 pm 



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XP Blue BBT rev B (Classic 1 and 2)

The fat Blue Bottom Border is back, now with Transparency! (BBT)

Please be aware, it can not look and function same as original.
It is a compromise. Skinning can only do so much.

Tried with CSM 4.1.0 on Win7/8.
Not compatible with most older versions of CSM. Will only partially work.
After downloading file, paste in skins folder. Usually C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins
Exit CSM, restart CSM, and go to «Start Menu Style» tab.
Pick Classic or Classic two columns.
Pick «XP Blue BBT» in Skin tab.

If you want to have at least the power button on the blue bottom, click on the Extend right text.
It can not be white text, unless Ivo has some overide trick in CSM settings?
I find if I extend the left text, the search box fits nicely. One has to drag a separator
in the Customize Start Menu tab, and drop it just above «search box».
This will give a buffer space for item button above it.

ps This is only the blue XP. Green and silver not included. File size at 1.38MB already.
I cheated and put a screenshot of real XP menu in bitmaps.
The alternative variation was a blend of original, Classic Shell, and my own.
And as always, if I left some bugaboos, sorry. You can tweak the text and bitmaps,
and upload the improved menu to share.

I decided to include more bitmaps for Transparency. They are at 230/255 Alpha layer,
using fullalpha. If you want to use menu in Win 7 with fullglass blur,
one would need to edit the bitmaps to 200/255A or lower,
and change opacity text to «fullglass».

One more thing, if you want to live dangerously, and have icon buttons for shutdown sub items,
on the blue bottom border, fine. GauravK shows how to do it. For me, after accidentally
hitting the log off button, and losing my work, I pass.

The all knowing GauravK provides a solution for that:
«There is a «Confirm Logoff» option in the Start menu settings».

Note. The extended bottom paddings will not work in Hi-DPI.
RevB removed large green arrows on split buttons, added face variation.

Attachments:
XP BLUE BBT.jpg

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XP Blue BBT revB.zip [217.97 KiB]

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Last edited by juniper7 on Sun May 29, 2016 1:04 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Weboh

Post subject: Re: XP Blue BBT Newold and improved

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:34 pm 



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Here’s mine. To get it like this, I had to extend the left and right borders, and add log off directly after programs. XP’s All programs doesn’t have an icon, so I typed «none» (without the quotes) to get it blank. And to get the buttons on the left to have the blank space on the bottom instead of the top, I had to add empty buttons below the rest of the things on the left. All that’s missing is being able to add white text to the bottom, removing the arrows after log off and shut down—while still keeping the sub-menus—and separating the log off button from the left row, so that it can be more to the right, like it is on XP.

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP Blue BBT Newold and improved

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:37 pm 



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Hello Weboh.
That’s funny. I thought I was helping you, and find out you did it already:)
First I thought-piece of cake. So easy, until I switched to small icons. All yucky spacing.
Took me a day just to sort that one out.

Yep, I messed around with a lot of things as well.
I made buffer/padding icon buttons, with bitmap picture inside of bottom border.
These were placed to be invisible, to push the log off, and power icon buttons to proper areas.
I even has the white lettering for «Turn Off Computer» right on the menu bitmap. The selection button,
with the exact invisible cutout lettering, to let it show through as white when selected.
But of course, as the menu shrank and expanded, it went way out of alignment.
These are not on uploaded menu. It had to be as simple as possible for others to use.

I wonder if an icon button has to be square? If not, the log off picture and text,
could be assembled as a rectangular icon button?
I just noticed both our menus have different separators from real XP.
Original is shorter and snubbed out. Yours looks better.

Anyway, that’s about as far as I want to take it,
getting even closer requires a lot of head scratching.
I don’t like the sight of blood.
The weekend is over, and it’s time to go.

Bye Weboh, the XPerienced.

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Weboh

Post subject: Re: XP Blue BBT Newold and improved

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:38 pm 



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Quote:

That’s funny. I thought I was helping you, and find out you did it already:)

Nono, you totally helped me. :) This is just my configuration of your skin, that I posted for reference for everyone else.

Quote:

These are not on uploaded menu. It had to be as simple as possible for others to use.

Well, I wouldn’t mind having it. I’m actually spending more time making Windows 7 look like XP than I did using XP. :P It’s fun to me.

Quote:

I wonder if an icon button has to be square? If not, the log off picture and text,
could be assembled as a rectangular icon button?
I just noticed both our menus have different separators from real XP.
Original is shorter and snubbed out. Yours looks better.

I assume it’s different because I’m using it with a third-party Windows XP skin.
And sadly, Icons have to be square. I wish Classic Shell didn’t require changing so many things into limited icons, but then again, at least we have it. Windows 7 (and especially 8) would be a nightmare without it.

Maybe GauravK or someone could try and fix some of the issues we noticed?

And if you need a project for next weekend, I’d appreciate it if you did this, or made the Silver version of this. :)

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Gaurav

Post subject: Re: XP Blue BBT Newold and improved

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:00 am 



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Hey that’s nice and quite an effort, juniper7! And that’s a clever idea, Weboh to move Log off below All Programs. It almost looks like the XP menu except for the differences you both pointed out.

juniper7 wrote:

If you want to live dangerously, and have icon buttons for shutdown sub items,
on the blue bottom border, fine. ..For me, after accidentally hitting the log off button, and losing my work, I pass.

There is a «Confirm Logoff» option in the Start menu.

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Weboh

Post subject: Re: XP Blue BBT Newold and improved

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:54 am 



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How can I change the shortcut key? When I make it say Turn off Computer instead of Shut Down, I lose the ability to press U to open the shutdown menu.

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Gaurav

Post subject: Re: XP Blue BBT Newold and improved

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:56 am 



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Weboh wrote:

How can I change the shortcut key? When I make it say Turn off Computer instead of Shut Down, I lose the ability to press U to open the shutdown menu.

Edit the item’s label to:
T&urn off Computer
OR
Turn off Comp&uter

The ampersand character (&) defines the shorcut key.

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juniper7

Post subject: XP LunaBB revB

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:49 pm 



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Warning
Don’t download, unless you like to tweak CSM settings.
Will not look good, straight out of the file box.
Bottom text will be all jumbled and scrunched up.

Blue/Green/Silver.
This is another version, my last attempt. At one time the bottom lettering was clear type. This one looks like original XP chunky text.
There is no way to make like original. If I squint my eyes from 15 feet away, it kind of looks like old xp.
This is closest I can make, but as I said,
requires lots of manipulation in «customize start menu settings».

Check out picture for visual instructions.
If using small icons option for main menu, minimum menu spacing will need to be increased further,
so add more blank spaces in between the & and &.
At bottom, it is only the icon buttons that will be highlighted with mouse over, not the icon and text.

I added option to show top thick border without name or user picture, because, well,
blue is beautiful you know. Also the slices are different, so around two thirds of top border could be used for game logo,
or say the face of a blue girl staring at you. If you know how to use Resource Hacker, you will find a test bitmap of her.
She is really airbrush hood painting on a VW beetle. Credits to painter.

To be a simple menu, the selectors are only color referenced, so no fullalpha, fullglass transparency is available,
unless real 32 bit selector bitmaps are put in place.

ps Thanks GauravK, concerning the log off confirm option.
I assumed the log off box would be in commands. None. Gave up at that point. Using Win8.1
After reading your comment, did a menu search, there it is.

ps Weboh, I tricked myself. I’m thinking wow, that person is really good. The menu name is like mine too.
The only differences are the ends of the right separators.
I read your post later. Eyeya! It’s the jpg compression distortion,
that made it look more like original XP. That was a good laugh. thanks

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Weboh

Post subject: Re: XP Blue BBT Newold and improved

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:16 am 



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Almost perfect! You’re amazing!

Does this sound like an interesting project for next weekend?

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP Blue BBT Newold and improved

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:24 pm 



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Me thinks that’s more than a weekend. How about 20 years project!

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juniper7

Post subject: XP LunaBB revB

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 11:38 pm 



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Added xml file to make it easier to use skin.

Just save .xml file to location of your choosing.
Click on backup button at bottom of CSM settings.
Pick «Load from XML file», open the «XP Luna BB xml file.

This will roughly set up the functions/look.
Only problem with this way, is every menu will follow same configuration.
You will need to «Reset all settings» to use a different menu skin.

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rd1993

Post subject: Re: XP Blue BBT Newold and improved

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:43 pm 



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Hey guys, I’m new here on the forum .

I’ve only just discovered this XP skin, and it’s awesome!! The only thing is, when I changed the skin and loaded the .xml settings, I don’t get the log off and the turn off computer icons aren’t showing — and I can’t even click on anything.

I know it’s been ages since you’ve been working on it, but maybe you guys could help.

Do I need to use a specific version of Classic Shell? I’m using CS version 4.2.1 on Windows 7 Enterprise.

Cheers

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juniper7

Post subject: XP LunaBB revB

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:13 pm 



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Hi rd1993.
well, that’s a bummer.
I just retried on Windows 7 Ultimate, and it works, with 4.2.1
By the way, there is only a small square around where the icons would be, that is active.
The text is just dummy text, imbedded in the menu picture bitmap.
Nothing will happen, if clicking on text.

I don’t have Enterprise version to test it.
The xml file, tells CSM to use the LogOffItem.Icon=%SystemRoot%\System32\shell32.dll, 325
and ShutdownBoxItem2.Icon=shell32.dll,329

Looks like you are going to have to manually find the icons, in a different .dll location in Enterprise, with «Customize Start Menu tab».
or download them to folder on drive, and instruct CSM to find them in that folder.

Sorry, I wish I could help further.

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luckiejacky

Post subject: How to add a complete row for xp menu?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:57 am 



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Ivo

Post subject: Re: How to add a complete row for xp menu?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:19 am 



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The short answer is that you can’t.

The long answer is that you can insert a row in the first column or in the second column and have buttons in it. See here:

http://www.classicshell.net/gallery/Start-Menu/search

To do that, add a new custom item and add the buttons as sub-items, as if you are making a sub-menu. Then in the custom item’s properties, check the setting «Insert sub-items as buttons».

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: How to add a complete row for xp menu?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:05 pm 



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If you are willing to sacrifice some XP looks, and take it further, the posts above are what Weboh, and I did with that buttons option,
at the Blue Bottom.

«XP Luna BB revB .skin» used along with » XP Luna BB revB.xml»

The xml file has to be loaded into CSM for it to work. You would need to reset «User name text» in «Menu Look» tab of CSM, as well.

We also tried another non button method too.
That is the first post «XP Blue BBT revB»

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP Blue BBT Newold and improved

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:32 pm 



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Just remembered, this girl is still hiding in the XPLuna BB file from way back.
If you want to see her. Swap bitmap 29 for bitmap 2

I put the girls face option variation in XP Blue BBT rev B. (The first skin at top of post)

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Gaurav

Post subject: Re: How to add a complete row for xp menu?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:41 pm 



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@Juniper7, would it be possible to update it for high DPI?

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: How to add a complete row for xp menu?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:12 pm 



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Hmm… 125%, 150%, 175% on Windows 10

Would that be to adjust the icon position bottom padding, for the DPI 150% auto feature?
Or are we talking major bitmap surgery,
to make the non stretching parts look better proportion 150% to the text menu area?

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: How to add a complete row for xp menu?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:30 pm 



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I’ll look at it, on the weekend.
Just scared bitmap will look blurry jacking up to 150%,
with my, not so great picture software.
I have a hunch,
I might be able to use a feature in Windows 10 to make sharp resize, without blurred lines.
We shall see.

And I said in a post last week, that I’m taking a skinning break.

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juniper7

Post subject: XPLuna TXT HDPI [For Classic 1 & 2 Columns]

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:08 am 



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Update for high DPI?

I tried it Gaurav.
Can only work in 3 sizes 100%,125%,150%, nothing else.

XPLuna TXT HDPI (text on blue bottom) and XPLuna ST HDPI (Standard XP look-a-like)
For Classic 1 & 2 Columns.

High Dots Per Inch experiment. Only available at 100%,125%,150%. Other percentages will not work properly.

As the bottom text is embedded into the bitmap, it’s stuck in one place,
and everything else has to be adjusted to compensate for it.
What looks like qty one Classic 1 column, and qty 1 Classic 2 column menus from viewer point of view,
it really is qty 12 menu bitmaps!
It would be qty 36 menu bitmaps to have all colors. Too much work, so there is only the blue menu in this zip.

Not sure if this is going to work correctly, or not on a different computer. See PS below, for possible odd bug.
It has regular size XP menu with the text & square buttons on the blue bottom.
Has option to switch to 125%, so the text/buttons line up properly.
In Windows 125% setting-it works. In CSM setting to 125DPI-buttons go out of alignment. It is not same as percentage.
Starting point of 96 dpi = 100% So to get the extra 25% CSM would need to be 96 x 1.25 = 120 DPI. Then it works properly.
If CSM detects 150% text size, it turns on automatically to proper proportions. In CSM, that would be 144 DPI setting.
It can be quite picky about the exact required amount! Maybe wasted two days on it. Best to use Windows size adjustment in «Display Settings».

Well at least try it once, then delete if not happy.

Note. The » XP ICONS.zip» name is a bit misleading. It has skins, .xml file, and XP icons all inside.

It requires some actions on your part to set it up:

1.Unzip the «XP ICONS» folder. Put it straight into Drive C.
(Don’t hide it in another folder in Drive C)

2. Copy the «XPLuna TXT HDPI.skin» file, and put it in the skins folder of Classic Shell.

3. Open up CSM settings, select «XPLuna TXT HDPI» in «Classic with two Columns» style.

4. Click on the «Backup» button at the bottom of CSM settings. Click on «Load from XML file»
Open the «XPLuna TXT HDPI.xml» file in the XP ICONS folder.

5. Lastly, reset user name text in «Menu Look» tab, to default.

This should set it all up, so the original XP icons are showing on second column.
(It changes configuration, to link up to the XP icons, make so shutdown buttons get small,
and adds some blank spaces to push second column out a bit.)

If all this fails on a different computer, sorry, did the best I could.

I put another skin file (XPLuna ST HDPI.skin) & (XPLuna ST HDPI.xml) in the XP ICONS folder as well.
It is just the Standard (ST),skin. Does not need matching xml file, unless you want the XP icons.
It can have proper sizing in reg, 125% & 150%. Just nothing on the blue bottom,
which in some cases is better than a lot of tweakin with DPI.

Post Script.
Just before uploading, I noticed something weird about the «custom menu» item in «Customize Start Menu» section.
I have a custom menu item sandwiched in between column padding, and shutdown dialog. It keeps the run button from going on the blue bottom.
When 2nd column icons are turned on, custom makes an invisible space. Good.
But when no icons option is turned on, the custom space dissapears! Huh.
I don’t know if it is a bug, or designed like that. Best not to use small icons, & no icons at 125%, 150%,
unless you put lots of items in first column.

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Gaurav

Post subject: Re: How to add a complete row for xp menu?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:42 am 



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Looks sharp and in place buttons at 150%. Thank you.

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP suzie (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:30 pm 



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XP suzie (classic 1 and 2 column)

This is suzie copycat menu for CSM.
From way back in 2001. Someone changed the color of Luna XP to this rich purple.
Difficult searching on internet. I don’t even know who made it, to give credit to.
I’ve had it forever. The only purple menu I could use longer than half an hour.

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skeleton11223

Post subject: Re: XP LunaBB revB

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:33 am 



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juniper7 wrote:

Hi rd1993.
well, that’s a bummer.
I just retried on Windows 7 Ultimate, and it works, with 4.2.1
By the way, there is only a small square around where the icons would be, that is active.
The text is just dummy text, imbedded in the menu picture bitmap.
Nothing will happen, if clicking on text.

I don’t have Enterprise version to test it.
The xml file, tells CSM to use the LogOffItem.Icon=%SystemRoot%\System32\shell32.dll, 325
and ShutdownBoxItem2.Icon=shell32.dll,329

Looks like you are going to have to manually find the icons, in a different .dll location in Enterprise, with «Customize Start Menu tab».
or download them to folder on drive, and instruct CSM to find them in that folder.

Sorry, I wish I could help further.

There is a way to make the text active, you just have to add a few extra shutdown dialogs and it will just be a few squares covering the text so you can basically hit any square and it will work normally.

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP LunaBB revB

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:58 am 



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skeleton11223 wrote:

There is a way to make the text active you just have to add a few extra shutdown dialogs so it will just be a few squares covering the text so you can basically hit any square and it will work normally.

I think I understand what you did. There are no icons showing in your picture.
So they must be referenced to an invisible icon.
Yep, that could work.

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skeleton11223

Post subject: Re: XP LunaBB revB

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:13 am 



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juniper7 wrote:

skeleton11223 wrote:

There is a way to make the text active you just have to add a few extra shutdown dialogs so it will just be a few squares covering the text so you can basically hit any square and it will work normally.

I think I understand what you did. There are no icons showing in your picture.
So they must be referenced to an invisible icon.
Yep, that could work.

Yup you’re right.

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Weboh

Post subject: Re: XP suzie (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:02 pm 



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juniper7 wrote:

XP suzie (classic 1 and 2 column)

This is suzie copycat menu for CSM.
From way back in 2001. Someone changed the color of Luna XP to this rich purple.
Difficult searching on internet. I don’t even know who made it, to give credit to.
I’ve had it forever. The only purple menu I could use longer than half an hour.

I can’t find it either. But I want the theme for my XP computer. Can you upload it here? (If the original author objects, you could always say you didn’t know whom to contact and promptly remove it)

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Splitwirez

Post subject: Re: XP suzie (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:59 am 



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juniper7 wrote:

The only purple menu I could use longer than half an hour.

May I interpret that as a challenge? :3

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:44 pm 



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Does not appear that I can upload the original msstyles suzie file, even in a zip. Just goes to refresh page?

Even the Wikisend free file sharing service is being red paged banned by MS.

I’ll try again tomorrow night.

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Jcee

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:49 am 



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Microsoft doesn’t ban files from being uploaded… maybe the archive is corrupt? try creating a .7z or .rar file instead?

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:40 pm 



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Microsoft was blocking the wiki site with smartscreen filter. Big red page.

I tried .zip again a few times-nope
.7z uploads, but I deleted it
.rar uploads Hope you have WinRAR?

Finally, never happened before with this site and zips. Could extension be turned off for uploading?

Anyway, this is a theme for XP, not Classic Shell. Uploaded for Weboh

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2 and 7 style)

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:50 pm 



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XPLuna7 HiDPI.skin7 [7 style] For CSM version 4.3.0

Making both columns roughly equal width, does cause a bit of a problem, when inside submenu tree is used.
Kind of narrow cramped! I would suggest to turn on «Large font» option.
The Tahoma font doesn’t make taller text, but rather w i d e r spread out text. This makes column 1 wider.
If using flyout submenu, does not matter too much.
Can always increase the default value of «Programs pane width» in CSM settings.
Problem with that is, the user picture that is set for 1st column, floats around, not locked in position.
That part is an experiment. If it bothers you, switch to default right position.

Text looks sharper with Font smoothing off.

Now that All Programs arrow is so XP big, hard not to notice.
Why does the arrow point opposite way for inside menu?
Does not make sense to me.

It should point to left, or at a north-west angle to open tree,
and point to Back, for returning back to normal view.
Better not go against the flow, will leave as is.

Edit: Changed to revision B
Reason was, if menu at top taskbar position, user picture would drop inside menu.
Now it stays within it’s vertical boundaries.

Still don’t know how to separately trigger search bitmap to show bigger images for HiDPI.
So I maxed out the 16 pixel space with bigger XP magnifier.

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2 and 7 style)

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:54 pm 



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XPLuna7 SS HiDPI.skin7 [7 style] For CSM version 4.3.0

It is the XPLuna7 HiDPI.skin7, with added fake icons added in second column.
The SS stands for ScreenShot. I had to make and paste many screenshots to get the images lined up.
Also, the icon pictures are stuck that way always. Can’t rearrange.
I have to stress, this skin only works properly with the xml file loaded,
to assign the proper matching links, and separator positions. Otherwise, 2nd column will be a muddled mess!
You can still put your own language text in second column.
Just try and keep the same width of start menu, or the left user picture could disappear.

If you absolutely want one or more shortcuts with fake icon below what’s there already,
use the custom image option to add your own icon picture (size matters 24pixels/100%, 32/125%, 36/150%),
And set up your command/link in «Customize Start Menu» tab.

Edit: Changed to revision B

Last edited by juniper7 on Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:18 am, edited 1 time in total.

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redblade8

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:21 pm 



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This is pretty cool. Good work making it Juniper, keep up the good work. =)

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Gaurav

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:58 pm 



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What can I say juniper7 except it’s perfect and high quality and a lot of hard work!!

The magnifying glass icon for search / (x) icon when we begin searching is smallish at high DPI. Everything else is perfect!!

Can you PM me your PayPal so I can show my appreciation by donating some amount?

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Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:27 pm 



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Gaurav wrote:

The magnifying glass icon for search / (x) icon when we begin searching is smallish at high DPI.

Mystery to me.
I don’t know the text to tell program,
to switch to the second enlarged line of search images in the search bitmap?
Tried with an enlarged bitmap. Didn’t work.
Is it something that I can put under [SEARCHBOX AND HIGH_DPI]

Got lucky with an enlarged pin bitmap on Hidpi, because it divides evenly.

Edit: Turning on large fonts switches to second line of images of search bitmap.
Don’t know how to trigger without large fonts, with or without a search bitmap.
Seems to get the threshold with main text size. Will leave as is, unless the main text size can stay same.

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Weboh

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:46 pm 



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juniper7 wrote:

Microsoft was blocking the wiki site with smartscreen filter. Big red page.

I tried .zip again a few times-nope
.7z uploads, but I deleted it
.rar uploads Hope you have WinRAR?

Finally, never happened before with this site and zips. Could extension be turned off for uploading?

Anyway, this is a theme for XP, not Classic Shell. Uploaded for Weboh

Hey, thanks! This is beautiful! I have a huuuuge collection of XP themes, and now it’s that much bigger! XP was awesome for skinning.

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:42 pm 



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Yeah, I love plugging in my old XP drive, to revisit those themes.
Remember DarkSide (really dark), and Sentinel X(Really well done, angled metal with color) ?

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Weboh

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:21 pm 



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No, I mostly have official ones, like Nintendo, Alienware, Microsoft, Disney, Nickelodeon… It’s amazing how many official themes were made. Though I’m now discovering ones like the ones you mentioned. Sadly, sites like belchfire.net that hosted them are now disappearing, and the Internet Archive doesn’t have complete version of them…

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP Embedded7 plus [7 Style]

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:22 am 



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Embedded7 Plus [7 style] Use with CSM 4.3.0

Embedded plus Zune plus Royale plus Noir plus HiDPI
Only HiDPI 150% I cut out the 125% size.

Gaurav had already made an impressive Classic 2 style, all in one skin.
This is the 7 Style version of the same skin.

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: Embedded7 SS Plus [7 style]

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:25 am 



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Embedded7 SS Plus [7 style] Use with CSM 4.3.0

Same type of skin with the additional icons image in second column.
To get it working, the xml file has to be loaded, to align the second column.

Same deal with the entries stuck that way. No rearranging. Can only add a couple extra at bottom.

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Gaurav

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:55 am 



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Thanks juniper7. Your skins are always polished and it’s a challenge porting classic with two column skins to 7 style but you do a superb job. For sake of completeness, these are an excellent addition to the collection of skins we have here in the forum.

Enjoying it

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Gaurav

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:03 am 



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The position of the user picture in this skin when shown in the left column seems to be dependent on the setting «Programs pane width». It shifts left/right depending on whether the value of this setting is decreased/increased.

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:12 pm 



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Yes, the offset picture frame was an experiment that Splitwirez, and I played with. We both knew it wasn’t a good fix.
7 style will always center the picture, so we made the bitmap super wide, with the frame offset at the end. About twice as wide as menu.
Can only work for one exact width of menu. I even made several different widths to accommodate small options, High Dpi, etc.
If frame is on right side, only the second column affects the float width, and is a bit more stable.
Nothing can be done to lock it in one position.
Luckily that option can be turned off.

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Splitwirez

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:11 am 



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Yeah, I still used it in my Plexcellent skin for CSM though, because there was no way to make having it on the right look acceptable…

Also…Start9 has the user picture on the left…

… :3

Then again, I already have someone working on a Luna skin lel…though I would think there are other cases where that may be of use…

…should I stop making these dumb not-really-warranted references to Start9? ._.

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:01 am 



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I mention your name, and you suddenly appear, like magic, with a very glassy Start9.
I figured we would never hear from you again, being hunkered down with coding .

The extremes we go to, just to get around the Windows law. Measuring one of the Hidpi user bitmaps, an astonishing 988 pixels long.
In coding the Start9, does that mean you can override the position restriction?

Edit:

Hey, I see you use Blender.
I found it can take the dark windows 7 start menu original buttons,
and by selecting straight/premultiplied, the rgb channels brighten up to normal view.
Too bad I did not know about UV image editing capabilities before.

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mayka

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:48 pm 



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Can anyone help me with enlarging profile picture in this skin? EDIT: By «this skin» I mean XP Blue BBT from opening post.

I have changed

Code:

[USER_IMAGE]
User_image_size=48
User_frame_position=10,8
User_bitmap=13
User_image_offset=2,2

[USER_IMAGE OR USER_NAME]
Main_bitmap=2
Main_bitmap_slices_Y=66,1,42
Main_padding=7,71,7,45
Main2_padding=7,71,7,46

to

Code:

[USER_IMAGE]
User_image_size=64
User_frame_position=10,8
User_bitmap=13
User_image_offset=2,2

[USER_IMAGE OR USER_NAME]
Main_bitmap=2
Main_bitmap_slices_Y=82,1,42
Main_padding=7,71,7,45
Main2_padding=7,71,7,46

and replaced Bitmap6 and Bitmap13 with bigger ones, yet it doesn’t work. No idea what to do next. I tried to change various padding values but it didn’t help.

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:59 pm 



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That skin has a number of variations with different bitmaps.
There might have to be other main bitmaps to change to taller type.
Do you see anything at all, like part of frame, or user picture?
I will check in again tom.

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mayka

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:07 am 



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This is how it looks without Bitmap6 changed.

View post on imgur.com

Just need to enlarge the blue part at the top, so profile pic doesn’t look so displaced.

And this is with Bitmap6 changed

View post on imgur.com

Pretty sure I’m just messing up something with Main_bitmap_slices_Y, but I’m also sure the values in *.bmp file and my edits to the skin are the same. As I wrote earlier, I have added 16 pixels to original Bitmap6 file and changed 66 to 82 in Main_bitmap_slices_Y=66,1,42 I must understand it wrong.

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juniper7

Post subject: Re: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:19 pm 



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Have not looked at the revB file for awhile.

Variation 1 Original two column with picture has Main_bitmap=2
Variation 2 Flatter bottom two column with picture has Main_bitmap=6
Variation 3 Transparent top/bottom two column with picture has Main_bitmap=17
Variation 4 Transparent top/bottom with face two column with picture has Main_bitmap=28 with different dimension slices.
along with same user picture frame User_bitmap=13 for all variations. Its frame is 52 pixels high.

Ok, now trying to figure what I am seeing in your pictures.

For first picture, the main menu bitmap looks like variation 2 with flatter bottom.
The second picture, I might be wrong, looks like variation 3 altered transparent main menu bitmap.
The vertical slices don’t look right. See my picture where the vertical slices should line up.

Your picture frame, black part show 64 pixel height.
It’s ashame you put the red over the user picture. Does user picture show, and just hiding it?

Kind of looks like you want a round user picture?
If you just want a round frameless user picture, steal the 64 pixel bitmap 18 from Metro skin.7
and use this text instead.
User_mask=13
Can add a (frame) User_bitmap to be above with a different number.

If all I have said is too confusing, upload your modified skin and we can see if we can get it working the way you want.

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Post subject: Windows XP Royale Skin

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:25 am 



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Here’s a Windows XP Royale skin for Classic Shell for all the XP fans out there who use a matching Royale visual style on Windows 7/8/Vista. I simply modified an existing Royale skin some user had created on Deviantart (with his permission of course). Let me know your suggestions.

The Royale Start Menu skin is a good match for the following visual styles (You will need to have UxStyle installed for your correct Windows version first):

Royale Visual Style for Windows 7
Royale Visual Style for Windows 8.1
Royale Visual Style for Windows 8
Royale Visual Style for Windows Vista
Zune Visual Style for Windows 7
Zune Visual Style for Windows 8.1

I couldn’t find more matching visual styles like Embedded and Royale Noir but they were there at DA earlier.

Download the Windows XP Royale.zip and extract the skin to C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins. You will need to switch obviously to the «Classic with two columns» Start Menu style in Classic Shell settings to use this skin.

And here are some Royale Start buttons: http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1920

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Post subject: Re: Windows XP Royale Skin

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Post subject: Re: Windows XP Royale Skin

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:47 am 



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Hmm. I can’t seem to figure it out. I can only get the Royale.
I really like the Zune. Is this because of the uxstyle acting up, or is it that «variation » bug, that Ivo mentioned about? I am using Win 8.1 CSM 4.0.2
I don’t seem to be able to switch themes of CC4 anymore either?
If I, hold on.
OK. I just copied all the numbers of the Zune folder 4 and matched up and pasted over the ones in the first folder. It worked, now I have the Zune one working.
I wonder if I make a new skin file with all the variations converted to option radio buttons instead?
It will force me to learn something over the holidays.

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Gaurav

Post subject: Re: Windows XP Royale Skin

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:54 am 



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Yes it is that variation bug in Classic Shell 4.0.2. It will be fixed in the next release of Classic Shell. You can temporarily revert to Classic Shell 4.0 to use other variations or wait till the next release.

If you make a skin with the variations converted to option radio buttons, it will work will the current release too. I considered converting the skin variations into radio group options but then the skin won’t work with Classic Shell 3.6.x for Windows Vista users.

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Post subject: Re: Windows XP Royale Skin

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:53 am 



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The broken variations bug for old skins is fixed in Classic Shell 4.0.4.

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Post subject: Re: Windows XP Royale Skin

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:51 pm 



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where do i put the 2 graphic icons in?

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Gaurav

Post subject: Re: Windows XP Royale Skin

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:35 pm 



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Put the icons anywhere you want. For example, you can create a folder under C:\Users\[your user name]\AppData\Roaming\ClassicShell\ called Icons. Then from Start Menu settings, you must switch to the Classic style or Classic with two columns style which is what is required to use these Royale skins. Go to the Customize Start Menu tab in Settings and double click the Shutdown and Logoff items to bring up the «Edit item» dialog, where you can change their icons.

To make the menu more like XP, you can drag the Log off item outside of the Shutdown dialog. Also you can change the Command of the Shutdown dialog from shutdown_box to shutdown if you want. Everything is customizable in the Classic styles.

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Post subject: Re: Windows XP Royale Skin

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:17 pm 



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Were you able to find the matching visual styles again? Or did you download them before they were taken down, and if so, can you post them here? I’ve been looking for some time myself, and can’t find them.

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Gaurav

Post subject: Re: Windows XP Royale Skin

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:46 pm 



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Weboh wrote:

Were you able to find the matching visual styles again? Or did you download them before they were taken down, and if so, can you post them here? I’ve been looking for some time myself, and can’t find them.

The ones linked above still work. I couldn’t find others.

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Post subject: Royale black theme for Windows 8.1

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Post subject: Re: Royale black theme for Windows 8.1

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Post subject: Re: Windows XP Royale Skin

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Thank you very much, Royale skin the best theme ever!

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Post subject: Re: Windows XP Royale Skin

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Post subject: Re: Windows XP Royale Skin

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:41 am 



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wait… no windows 10????

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Death Metal 2000

Post subject: Re: Windows XP Royale Skin

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:10 am 



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Anyone got a Windows 10 version?

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Post subject: Re: Windows XP Royale Skin

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:43 am 



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I gather you are asking about a theme, not just classic two column/7 style start menu skin.

As Microsoft is killing off parts of theming with each new Windows 10 update,
I can see theme makers are having a hard time making themes work.
Eventually, all a user will be able to change, is just the color of taskbar/title bar.

Depending on which Win 10 version you have, you could try this:

https://sagorpirbd.deviantart.com/art/X … -520345860

Good luck. You will need a lot of it.

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Users who remember and like the appearance of Windows XP might not be very impressed by the default look of Windows 10. The appearance can be changed to some extent using UxStyle and third party themes, but in Windows 10, Microsoft prevents the taskbar from being skinned using visual styles (themes). Today, we will see how to skin Windows 10’s taskbar to give it a Windows XP appearance without using patches or themes.

Windows 10 with XP taskbar and start menu

All we need is everyone’s favorite Start menu replacement and system enhancement tool, Classic Shell. Recently, its developer implemented the ability to skin the taskbar in Windows 10 and earlier versions of Windows too. The user can change the taskbar text color, change the color to make it different from the title bar color, change its transparency or set a background image or texture for the Windows taskbar.

As of this writing, only the beta version 4.2.7 of Classis Shell allows doing this. To proceed, you need to download Classic Shell 4.2.7 from its official web site (use the red button ‘Download Beta’):

Download Classic Shell

After that, you need to prepare Windows 10 for a better XP look and feel. Do it as follows.

  1. Right click the Taskbar and pick Settings from the context menu:
    Windows 10 taskbar settings context menu item

  2. When the Settings app opens, turn on the option called Use small taskbar buttons as shown below:
    Windows 10 small taskbar buttons

  3. In Settings, go to Personalization -> Colors. Pick the following color:
    Windows 10 xp color for windows

  4. Scroll down and enable the option Show color on title bar:
    Windows 10 show color on title bar

Now you can close Settings.

Install Classic Shell you downloaded earlier and do the following.

  1. Download the following archive: Download Classic Shell XP suite
    Extract all its files to any folder you like. I will use the folder c:\xp.
    The archive contains the taskbar texture, the wallpaper and the Start button to be used with Classic Shell.
  2. Right click the Start menu button to open Classic Start Menu Settings:
    Windows 10 open taskbar settings

  3. By default, the Settings dialog opens in basic mode:
    Windows 10 CS settings basic

    You need to switch it to the extended mode by ticking the «Show all settings» checkbox to get the following look:

    Windows 10 CS settings extended

  4. Now, go to the tab called Taskbar and enable the «Customize taskbar» option. There, you will find a number of options which you need to change.
    Classic shell taskbar tab

  5. Click the option «Taskbar texture» and then click the […] button to browse for the file xp_bg.png that you extracted from the archive:
    Classic shell xp taskbar bg

    In horizontal stretching below, set «Tile»:

    Classic shell xp taskbar bg tile

    This will make the taskbar look like in Windows XP.

  6. Next, go to the Start button tab (the tab to the left of the Taskbar tab in Classic Shell). There, tick the option «Replace Start button» and then click the option «Custom button». Then click «Button image» and then click the […] button. Again, browse for the file XPButton.png you downloaded and extracted from the archive. You will get something like this:
    Classic shell XP start button settings

    Click OK to apply the Start button image.

You will get the following appearance:

Windows 10 with XP taskbar

The taskbar will have an almost authentic XP look. The window frame/title bar color also matches the taskbar.

Now, it is a good idea to apply the genuine bliss wallpaper. While I included it in the archive, I suggest you to read this article: Windows XP support has ended today: A farewell to the venerable OS. There, you can get the 4K version of this beautiful wallpaper.
Finally your Windows 10 will look as follows:

Windows 10 with XP taskbar and wallpaper

You can even enable the Windows XP start menu style in Classic Shell and apply the Windows XP Luna skin:

Windows 10 with XP taskbar and start menu

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Here’s a skin I wanted to share. This skin aims to give you a little bit of that XP-feel that you’d get with the Windows Classic theme.

Credit to juniper7 on the Classic Shell forums for creating the base skin.

Original thread on the Classic Shell forums:
www.classicshell.net/forum/vie…

(My original post)
www.classicshell.net/forum/vie…

do you possibly have the XP icons?

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Post by powerplayer on Aug 26, 2019 17:12:29 GMT -8

Due to complaints of spamming and stuff i decided to move all my themes here and update these thread when i make new material in order to keep things organized and less bloated :

First you need to install classicshell ClassicShellSetup_4_3_1.exe (6.9 MB) Openshell does not load the skins properly

01. Modernclassic Metro.rar

(373.04 KB)

 

As stated on the picture above just drop the folders in classicshell folder then run the xml in the theme folder (that goes for all my skins )

02. I played this operating system roleplaying game called kingsway and decided to make the startmenu looking like the game here they are side by side

kingsway.rar (

33.96 KB) a game within a real OS posted on Jan 14, 2019 at 9:23pm Im deleting the original thread to reduce bloat

03 Macos7 made on

Dec 24, 2018 at 4:43am Think different use a maos startmenu lol macos7.rar (26.3 KB)

04 Winhn

Originally i made this way back in the xp days so when i found an image of my own modded xp i decided to port it to classicshell
winhn.rar (10.0 KB)

05 Win9x

Feeling retro yet? time to downgrade startmenu to good old win95 win9x.rar (32.0 KB)

06 Xpde Remember that early 2000’s Xp window manager they did on linux? Well i ported it over   xpde.rar (74.3 KB)

07 Reactos

What if reactos really worked? simulate with this startmenu reactos4.0.rar (173 KB)

08 Beos
Remember that 90s OS that never took off?
i honor its memory with a startmenu
beos.rar (627 KB)

 

09 Win 3.1

Strolling down the memory lane early 90s nostalgia
win3.rar (42.2 KB)

Finally a few modern start buttons

And the windows 8 startbutton

And the Large versions for superbar

And a pixel perfect win95 start button

Lately i made 95 theme for openshell

Win95.rar (95.47 KB)

For Openshell
allskinsandthemes.rar (8.2 MB)

Install openshell and startisback + then add this registry file to get all the modernclassic settings openshellstartisback.reg (82.0 KB)

Thanks to classic4ever i got this updated  win95 skin win95b.skin (197.0 KB) Thanks dude!!!!

Last Edit: Jul 18, 2020 9:16:41 GMT -8 by powerplayer

Post by classic4ever on Jul 5, 2020 1:01:02 GMT -8

Hi powerplayer,

Continuing from this thread

— I’m just trying to make the main menu as slim/thin as possible.

I extracted the bitmap with reshacker, filled the caption area with rgb 212 208 200 but left all borders as original:

ibb.co/d4749nW

After replacing the bitmap with reshacker and reloading the skin in openshell the border shadows became bright. Padding the menu to the left of the bitmap (Main_padding) leads to flat black menu borders. Maybe I overlooked something?
If I use the original bitmap everything looks fine.

— In «customize Start Menu», if I remove an item (even a separator) the content underneath moves up and leaves back a semi transparent (!) empty space (212,208,200) after saving and loading a new .xml.

— I saw the other threads but even if I use classicshell instead of openshell as recommended there because of not properly loading skins I get this empty space. Btw this win95 skin is my favourite.

Best wishes

edit: Ok, I forgot to set the bitmap opacity (alpha channel) in Photoshop to 100% and now the colors and borders are fine. Then the first value in Main_padding must be always binary, e.g. not «2» but «02». So only the problem with the empty space under the search box is left.

edit2: I got it. First I have to remove (customize) all unneccesary items from the startmenu, then edit the skin «Main_bitmap_slices» and reduce the third value (3 digits) until the empty space is gone. If I add an item again in the menu, the menu expands.

Thanks a lot for this skin, looks like many many years ago now.

Last Edit: Jul 5, 2020 7:14:18 GMT -8 by classic4ever

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Post by powerplayer on Jul 5, 2020 14:17:58 GMT -8

edit2: I got it. First I have to remove (customize) all unneccesary items from the startmenu, then edit the skin «Main_bitmap_slices» and reduce the third value (3 digits) until the empty space is gone. If I add an item again in the menu, the menu expands.

Thanks a lot for this skin, looks like many many years ago now.

send over the finished version of the skin  if you get it fully  working with my theme that would be pretty cool in the meantime check out my themes and skins pack at the bottom of my main post added win10 beta skin.
One more thing i thing we need to remove the show user picture option and the show user name from the skin cause maybe the resize thing was made with these in mind (i modified the nt workstation skin + colors in the skin to get this menu so i agree its not perfect yet)
maybe even add win9x specific enhancements to it while keeping it small then we keep on making it look like the rest of the old windows-versions sounds good?

Last Edit: Jul 5, 2020 14:37:33 GMT -8 by powerplayer

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Post by powerplayer on Jul 5, 2020 17:44:45 GMT -8

windows98skin.skin (118.26 KB) anyway here is a win98 skin made it today pretty lightweight one without any bloat and it renders things correctly providing your using caption.

Last Edit: Jul 5, 2020 17:46:06 GMT -8 by powerplayer

Post by classic4ever on Jul 6, 2020 18:08:32 GMT -8

Hi powerplayer,

Yes, sounds good. We should keep the original classic menu skin with 3d-separators and 3d-borders and add only the themes of the different old windows versions. Did I get you right?

Link sent (pm).

Btw: I modified the hilight colour from grey to classic blue (rgb 10,36,106 or #0a246a) and hilight text colour to white, like in XP for example.

Your are right, user name and picture stretch the main menu horizontally after my modification, one has to increase the earlier mentioned padding. I never used them and would leave it away for standard.

If someone wants them nevertheless, I wrote which values have to be changed. Maybe there’s a better solution, still need more time to tinker.

I’ll check the other skins later, thanks for the update.

Best wishes

Post by classic4ever on Jul 6, 2020 18:22:20 GMT -8

Strange, for me the main menu from your new skin has no 3d-borders and the separators in main- and submenu are not 3d, just lines.

I’ll look into it tomorrow.

btw: The caption works.

Good night

Post by classic4ever on Jul 7, 2020 16:12:42 GMT -8

Hi powerplayer,

I checked your skin collection (for openshell) and must admit, my tinkering has ended.

Skin «Win98Plus! Retro» and «Classic Special 7» are absolute awesome. Maybe «Win98Plus! Retro» is slightly better because of the better looking font, the smaller menu size and the wide customizable caption. Plus it follows the system colours!

Optional username and picture show up clean without stretching or empty spaces, borders and separators are 3d, no need to edit any data.

Thanks for your efforts to keep the good old stuff alive!

Cheers

Last Edit: Jul 7, 2020 16:16:49 GMT -8 by classic4ever

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Post by powerplayer on Jul 7, 2020 17:21:54 GMT -8

Hi powerplayer,

I checked your skin collection (for openshell) and must admit, my tinkering has ended.

Skin «Win98Plus! Retro» and «Classic Special 7» are absolute awesome. Maybe «Win98Plus! Retro» is slightly better because of the better looking font, the smaller menu size and the wide customizable caption. Plus it follows the system colours!

Optional username and picture show up clean without stretching or empty spaces, borders and separators are 3d, no need to edit any data.

Thanks for your efforts to keep the good old stuff alive!

Cheers

yea but these skins that are with a bunch of stuff added to them take more space and thus the startmenu becomes slower with them i rather have a small lean startmenu cause it gets much quicker response overall , glad you like my skinpack also i use startisback with classic3 theme thats why i color the bitmaps in my skins accordingly to it unless we can modify classic3 theme to use win10 system color or respect all the system colors.

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